The other day I watching Fareed Zakaria, in London, interviewing one of the best known, one of the biggest voices there for jihad and attacks against the west, Anjem Choudary. He spoke in favor of the 9/11 attack in the US. He spoke up being for the 7/7 attack in London (what a jerk! OH, sorry, excuse my opinion encroaching on the text here).
This turned out to be a great showcase for Fareeds skills at handling a difficult subject (Anjem) in an interview situation. Anjem was overbearing, self-righteous and essentially deluded about his world view and his understanding of history and current affairs. Not unusual in this type of personality. Its amazing how well educated some people can be (some terrorists types that is) and yet, still be so unaware of reality, outside their own obsessions.
When questioned about the killing of women and children he side stepped it. When questioned about the killing of Muslims and Muslim women and children, he spoke of how this happened also during Mohammad's time and his battles. He said it was stated then that if you target the enemy (with catapults, etc.) and Muslims, women and children are killed, well, that's okay, after all (rationalizing) you didn't target them.
This man is one of the things that is wrong with the World perception of Islam today. And one of the things that has been wrong with it for decade upon decade but has been hidden or silent to most of the world, until the horrors they have perpetrated upon the world, came to be. Since then, people can see what they are all about.
No, not the Islamic world, the Muslim world; no not all Muslims, but those militant, death loving ones. Its a theme going through the Desert religions from that part of the world, to be death oriented, that was only a matter of time until it became incorrectly focused and made real. I've seen it in Jewish teachings, Catholic and therefore Christian teachings and Islam.
The more reasonable Islam population saying that this isn't really Islam, has little impact. Part of what a religion is, is what the world THINKS it is. Sad, but true. As one cleric said, these terrorists have hijacked our religion and we need to take it back. Exactly.
From what I can understand about Islam, it is a peaceful religion. So is Judaism, Catholicism and Christianity. But they have all gotten a little carried away from time to time. Perhaps Judaism would have the most to complain about being grouped in that category. But with recent events over the past decade or two in Israel, I'm not so sure.
It is with hose disaffected and mentally challenged leaders, the ones who do not go into battle, who do not blow themselves up, but put a younger, less stable, less world- oriented individual up to it.
"Go die for our God (or Mohammad, our untouchable Idol), for I cannot permit myself to go because then I won't be here to send other young people off to die while killing innocent people, whom we have decided are not innocent because of indirect rationalizations and because we cannot fight against the actual aggressors as we perceive them. Oh, well, kill them anyway."
There area a few sane, Islamic web sites out there:
Muslims against Terrorism
On the site, Muslims against Terrorism: "By God, he is not a true believer,
from whose mischief his neighbors do not feel secure." -- Prophet Mohammed (Bukhari, Muslim)
Also from there:
Memo to Osama bin Laden:
"I would rather live in America under Ashcroft and Bush at their worst, than in any “Islamic state” established by ignorant, intolerant and murderous punks like you and Mullah Omar at their best." -- A thought-provoking, controversial, pre-war article by Muqtedar Khan, Ph.D., February 12, 2003
What is needed here? What is to be done with people who profess war. Yes, that includes Western leaders and countries, don't think I don't think that. But these terrorists decry the West (but seldom the governments of their own kind).
When questioned about the US and allied forces liberating Kuwait from Iraq, Fareed's interviee's response was that no Muslims were being killed by Muslims. Okay, this isn't just misinformed or deluded, this is retarded. Yes, retarded. Maybe not a politically correct word because of a bunch of touchy feely scared to say or do the wrong things, types, but look up the word. Use appropriate verbiage.
Merriam-Webster defines it as such: "Sometimes offensive : slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress."
Yes, its offensive, but I don't even mean it here as being offensive, just accurate. What is offensive, is consciously murdering innocent people in the name of religion. How in any form of thought is that acceptable?
"Islam is not the source of terrorism, but its solution", says author Harun Yahya.
"It is time that we Muslims acknowledge that the freedoms we enjoy in the US are more desirable to us than superficial solidarity with the Muslim World. If you disagree, then prove it by packing your bags and going to whichever Muslim country you identify with." -- Dr. M. A. Muqtedar Khan
Ed Bradley: "Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the responsibility... Does not Islam, does not Allah require that Muslims police their own religion and rid themselves of extremists?"
Hamza Yusuf: "Yes, absolutely. It's an obligation for Muslims to root them out. And I think it is a jihad now for the Muslims in the Muslim country to rid themselves of this element." -- CBS's 60 Minutes, September 30, 2001
"Who has the greatest duty to stop violence committed by Muslims against innocent non-Muslims in the name of Islam? The answer, obviously, is Muslims." -- Ingrid Mattson, Vice President, Islamic Society of North America
So in wrapping up, Anjem Choudary and his other deluded cultists, followers, friends, cohorts, murderers, criminals, religious bastardizers and enjoyers of religious mass murders, do you get it yet? Do you?
The Jihad, is against you. Your own people say so.
It is you and your kind sir, it is you, need to be put down.