Creating life.
My son has been trying to create life in our kitchen. Some metal rods, water, container, electricity, aluminum and saran wrap (hey, I don't know).
He ran it all together and came up with many bubbles. In a few hours, there was some kind of goop. It looked similar to the description given of what two scientists found in the 50s when they did something similar and created the basic building blocks of life on Earth, enzymes.
So we joked that maybe he had created life. or a Universe. But I had to pose the question, so if that makes you their "God", what does that make me? I mean, I pay the electricity here, you used things from my house to create this, "life".
Then it got us to thinking, how WAS our universe created? Was there a guy in a room in a house, and he created this universe? Sitting there partying with his friends, did he say, "Hey, check this out." And poof, our universe appeared?
And so if "God" created all things (in this universe, remember when life was less complicated and you just said, "God created all things, everywhere", but now "He" is limited?); what does that make his Dad? You could say, in the Catholic way, that "God" and His, Dad, are part of the Holy Trinity, the mysteries of God (etc., etc.,).
But what about "God's" "Dad's" "Dad", and His "Dad", and so on, and so on (and they told two friends, and they told two friends, and so on, and....).
Anyway, it makes one a little crazy to consider all this.
But still and again...what if?
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Tuesday, October 26, 2010
Who was, Dalton Trumbo?
I first heard of Dalton Trumbo in my first Cinema class in college. He has since become one of my heroes as a writer. We had to see some very cool films. "Network" (1976 by Paddy Chayefsky). "Zardoz" (1974). "Breaker Morant" (1980). All great films. One, was especially, special: "Johnny Got His Gun" (I haven't seen this newer, 2008 version, I saw the 1971 version with Timothy Bottoms, see below). A staunch anti war film. Written many, many years before the movie was able to be made in 1938, published in 1939. Its a startling film. I can understand why it wasn't able to be produced until the 70s.
My teacher spoke of great reverence for Dalton Trumbo and my own only grew over the years.
Dalton Trumbo, was a great man. He was a great writer. He stood up to the mentally unbalanced social bastard, Senator Eugene McCarthy, during the Communist witch trials of the 1950s. Dalton wrote so many stories.
One of my favorite movies that he wrote, was "Johnny Got His Gun" (1971). It was a story that points out many things about war and about how we can forget, or even may want to forget, our disabled vets; and yet, so much more.
Dalton Trumbo's 1970 speech to the Screen Writers Guild for his Laurel Award
"The blacklist was a time of evil, and that no one on either side who survived it came through untouched by evil. Caught in a situation that had passed beyond the control of mere individuals, each person reacted as his nature, his needs, his convictions, and his particular circumstances compelled him to. There was bad faith and good, honesty and dishonesty, courage and cowardice, selflessness and opportunism, wisdom and stupidity, good and bad on both sides.
"When you who are in your forties or younger look back with curiosity on that dark time, as I think occasionally you should, it will do no good to search for villains or heroes or saints or devils because there were none; there were only victims. Some suffered less than others, some grew and some diminished, but in the final tally we were all victims because almost without exception each of us felt compelled to say things he did not want to say, to do things that he did not want to do, to deliver and receive wounds he truly did not want to exchange. That is why none of us - right, left, or center - emerged from that long nightmare without sin."
If you want to know more, check out the documentary on him, "Trumbo".
My teacher spoke of great reverence for Dalton Trumbo and my own only grew over the years.
Dalton Trumbo, was a great man. He was a great writer. He stood up to the mentally unbalanced social bastard, Senator Eugene McCarthy, during the Communist witch trials of the 1950s. Dalton wrote so many stories.
One of my favorite movies that he wrote, was "Johnny Got His Gun" (1971). It was a story that points out many things about war and about how we can forget, or even may want to forget, our disabled vets; and yet, so much more.
Dalton Trumbo's 1970 speech to the Screen Writers Guild for his Laurel Award
"The blacklist was a time of evil, and that no one on either side who survived it came through untouched by evil. Caught in a situation that had passed beyond the control of mere individuals, each person reacted as his nature, his needs, his convictions, and his particular circumstances compelled him to. There was bad faith and good, honesty and dishonesty, courage and cowardice, selflessness and opportunism, wisdom and stupidity, good and bad on both sides.
"When you who are in your forties or younger look back with curiosity on that dark time, as I think occasionally you should, it will do no good to search for villains or heroes or saints or devils because there were none; there were only victims. Some suffered less than others, some grew and some diminished, but in the final tally we were all victims because almost without exception each of us felt compelled to say things he did not want to say, to do things that he did not want to do, to deliver and receive wounds he truly did not want to exchange. That is why none of us - right, left, or center - emerged from that long nightmare without sin."
If you want to know more, check out the documentary on him, "Trumbo".
The "Star Wackers" have to be stopped! - Randy Quaid and wife in Canada
Sunday, Randy Quaid and his wife, Evi, were arrested in Canada on warrants in the US. But when they asked for asylum saying their lives were at risk, Canadian authorities released them until a hearing later in the week. Randy is brother actor to Dennis Quaid.
A statement was released, written by the Quaid's stating: "Yes, we are requesting asylum from Hollywood 'star whackers'." At Friday's immigration hearing, Evi Quaid alleged that a number of her husband's actor friends - among them Heath Ledger and David Carradine - had been killed in recent years.
"Randy has known eight close friends murdered in odd, strange manners," she said in what the Reuters news agency called a "rambling" presentation. "We feel that we're next."
Granted, I had thought it odd how Heath died, and David had questionable circumstance surrounding the situation of his demise in Thailand. In hearing this, I had to stop and think about it. Who, would want to kill Heath, David and Randy? Were there others? And why such a declining scope.
Heath was a big star. David was on the road to a reinvention of his career since the Kill Bill movies. Randy wasn't even that big a star, though he has had some interesting roles in such block buster movies as "Independence Day". Are there a group of "Star Wackers" running rampant in Hollywood? And would running off to Canada save the Quaids? If they need to hide, why the recent big noise in Santa Barbera that they made moving back into a house they sold years ago, as well as doing thousands of dollars of damage to it?
I had to pause on this. And then decided that no, what we likely have here is a couple that is in some kind of shared delusion. Besides, how could there be such a curious conspiracy as a "Star Wacker" group? It just tends not to happen.
Aside from their ramblings at the Canadian hearing we have the note they wrote, that indicates another kind of rambling. They denied having a drug or alcohol problem, but those with a drug or alcohol problem, seldom share the information or possibly even believe it to be the case.
Here is the BBC article.
A statement was released, written by the Quaid's stating: "Yes, we are requesting asylum from Hollywood 'star whackers'." At Friday's immigration hearing, Evi Quaid alleged that a number of her husband's actor friends - among them Heath Ledger and David Carradine - had been killed in recent years.
"Randy has known eight close friends murdered in odd, strange manners," she said in what the Reuters news agency called a "rambling" presentation. "We feel that we're next."
Granted, I had thought it odd how Heath died, and David had questionable circumstance surrounding the situation of his demise in Thailand. In hearing this, I had to stop and think about it. Who, would want to kill Heath, David and Randy? Were there others? And why such a declining scope.
Heath was a big star. David was on the road to a reinvention of his career since the Kill Bill movies. Randy wasn't even that big a star, though he has had some interesting roles in such block buster movies as "Independence Day". Are there a group of "Star Wackers" running rampant in Hollywood? And would running off to Canada save the Quaids? If they need to hide, why the recent big noise in Santa Barbera that they made moving back into a house they sold years ago, as well as doing thousands of dollars of damage to it?
I had to pause on this. And then decided that no, what we likely have here is a couple that is in some kind of shared delusion. Besides, how could there be such a curious conspiracy as a "Star Wacker" group? It just tends not to happen.
Aside from their ramblings at the Canadian hearing we have the note they wrote, that indicates another kind of rambling. They denied having a drug or alcohol problem, but those with a drug or alcohol problem, seldom share the information or possibly even believe it to be the case.
Here is the BBC article.
Monday, October 25, 2010
Why do people turn to Islamic terrorism?
People are searching for meaning in their lives. Why do they turn to terrorism? Suicide? Obviously, life is holding little meaning for them. They are searching for some Meaning in Life.
Albert Camus said, You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life."
There is a song from the 80s on the soundtrack for the movie, "Repo Man". Its by the Punk Rock group, Suicidal Tendencies, the song is called: "Institutionalized" (1983). These lyrics have a good point and were never more relevant than now. Especially pay attention to the very last line in the song, because it is most relevant to these current kids, who are joiners, who want to be good, to do good, to seek adventure, stop feeling empty, but who are feeling empty (see also, emptiness and the avoidance of unbearable pain. See, Profound States of Despair: A Developmental and Systems Approach to Treating Emptiness):
"Institutionalized"
Sometimes I try to do things and it just doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
I get real frustrated and I try hard to do it and I take my time and it doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
It's like I concentrate real hard and it doesn't work out.
Everything I do and everything I try never turns out.
It's like I need time to figure these things out.
But there's always someone there going.
Hey Mike:
You know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately.
You know, maybe you should get away and maybe you should talk about it, maybe you'll feel a lot better
And I'm all like:
Oh nah it's ok you know I'll figure it out, just leave me alone I'll figure it out.
You know I'm just working on it by myself.
And they go:
Well you know if you want to talk about it I'll be here you know and you'll probably feel a lot better if you talk about it. So why don't you talk about it?
And I go:
No I don't want to I'm okay, I'll figure it out myself.
But they just keep bugging me and they just keep bugging me, and it builds up inside.
So you're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes
You won't have anything to say
They'll brainwash you until you see their way.
I'm not crazy - Institutionalized
You're the one that's crazy - Institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - Institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution,
Said it was the only solution,
to give me the needed professional help,
to protect me from the enemy - Myself
I was in my room and I was just like staring at the wall thinking about everything.
But then again I was thinking about nothing
And then my mom came in and I didn't even know she was there.
She called my name and I didn't hear her and then she started screaming: MIKE! MIKE!
And I go:
What, what's the matter?
She goes:
What's the matter with you?
I go:
There's nothing wrong mom.
She's all:
Don't tell me that, you're on drugs!
I go:
No mom I'm not on drugs I'm okay, I was just thinking you know, why don't you get me a Pepsi.
She goes:
NO you're on drugs!
I go:
Mom I'm okay, I'm just thinking.
She goes:
No you're not thinking, you're on drugs! Normal people don't be acting that way!
I go:
Mom just get me a Pepsi, please
All I want is a Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me
All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me.
Just a Pepsi.
They give you a white shirt with long sleeves
Tied around you're back, you're treated like thieves
Drug you up because they're lazy
It's too much work to help a crazy
I'm not crazy - Institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - Institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - Institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution,
Said it was the only solution,
to give me the needed professional help,
to protect me from the enemy - Myself
I was sitting in my room when my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a chair and they sat down.
They go:
Mike, we need to talk to you.
And I go:
Okay what's the matter?
They go:
Me and your mom have been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems,
And you've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're going to hurt somebody,
And we're afraid you're going to hurt yourself.
So we decided that it would be in you're best interest if we put you somewhere
Where you could get the help that you need.
And I go:
Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided!?
MY best interests?! How do you know what MY best interest is?
How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say, I'M crazy?
When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches,
I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'M crazy?
They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead
I'm not crazy - Institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - Institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - Institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution,
Said it was the only solution,
to give me the needed professional help,
to protect me from the enemy - Myself
Doesn't matter, I'll probably get hit by a car anyways.
[end of lyrics]
People might argue that, "Well, many other kids do okay with this form of things", and they would be right, to a degree. But just because its sort of functional, doesn't mean it shouldn't be revamped. It doesn't mean, its not dysfunctional. And it doesn't mean, it won't create the disaffected. Those searching for meaning, even if it doesn't exist. Those two things, can make one crazy; especially, a youth searching for an answer and worse when no answer is forthcoming,
Perhaps, Walt Kelly in his Pogo comic strip, was right, when he first said
"We Have Met The Enemy and He Is Us"
on a poster for Earth Day in 1970.
Perhaps, we HAVE met the enemy, and it really is US.
Albert Camus said, You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life."
There is a song from the 80s on the soundtrack for the movie, "Repo Man". Its by the Punk Rock group, Suicidal Tendencies, the song is called: "Institutionalized" (1983). These lyrics have a good point and were never more relevant than now. Especially pay attention to the very last line in the song, because it is most relevant to these current kids, who are joiners, who want to be good, to do good, to seek adventure, stop feeling empty, but who are feeling empty (see also, emptiness and the avoidance of unbearable pain. See, Profound States of Despair: A Developmental and Systems Approach to Treating Emptiness):
"Institutionalized"
Sometimes I try to do things and it just doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
I get real frustrated and I try hard to do it and I take my time and it doesn't work out the way I wanted to.
It's like I concentrate real hard and it doesn't work out.
Everything I do and everything I try never turns out.
It's like I need time to figure these things out.
But there's always someone there going.
Hey Mike:
You know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately.
You know, maybe you should get away and maybe you should talk about it, maybe you'll feel a lot better
And I'm all like:
Oh nah it's ok you know I'll figure it out, just leave me alone I'll figure it out.
You know I'm just working on it by myself.
And they go:
Well you know if you want to talk about it I'll be here you know and you'll probably feel a lot better if you talk about it. So why don't you talk about it?
And I go:
No I don't want to I'm okay, I'll figure it out myself.
But they just keep bugging me and they just keep bugging me, and it builds up inside.
So you're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes
You won't have anything to say
They'll brainwash you until you see their way.
I'm not crazy - Institutionalized
You're the one that's crazy - Institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - Institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution,
Said it was the only solution,
to give me the needed professional help,
to protect me from the enemy - Myself
I was in my room and I was just like staring at the wall thinking about everything.
But then again I was thinking about nothing
And then my mom came in and I didn't even know she was there.
She called my name and I didn't hear her and then she started screaming: MIKE! MIKE!
And I go:
What, what's the matter?
She goes:
What's the matter with you?
I go:
There's nothing wrong mom.
She's all:
Don't tell me that, you're on drugs!
I go:
No mom I'm not on drugs I'm okay, I was just thinking you know, why don't you get me a Pepsi.
She goes:
NO you're on drugs!
I go:
Mom I'm okay, I'm just thinking.
She goes:
No you're not thinking, you're on drugs! Normal people don't be acting that way!
I go:
Mom just get me a Pepsi, please
All I want is a Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me
All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me.
Just a Pepsi.
They give you a white shirt with long sleeves
Tied around you're back, you're treated like thieves
Drug you up because they're lazy
It's too much work to help a crazy
I'm not crazy - Institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - Institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - Institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution,
Said it was the only solution,
to give me the needed professional help,
to protect me from the enemy - Myself
I was sitting in my room when my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a chair and they sat down.
They go:
Mike, we need to talk to you.
And I go:
Okay what's the matter?
They go:
Me and your mom have been noticing lately that you've been having a lot of problems,
And you've been going off for no reason and we're afraid you're going to hurt somebody,
And we're afraid you're going to hurt yourself.
So we decided that it would be in you're best interest if we put you somewhere
Where you could get the help that you need.
And I go:
Wait, what are you talking about, WE decided!?
MY best interests?! How do you know what MY best interest is?
How can you say what MY best interest is? What are you trying to say, I'M crazy?
When I went to YOUR schools, I went to YOUR churches,
I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'M crazy?
They say they're gonna fix my brain
Alleviate my suffering and my pain
But by the time they fix my head
Mentally I'll be dead
I'm not crazy - Institutionalized
You're the one who's crazy - Institutionalized
You're driving me crazy - Institutionalized
They stuck me in an institution,
Said it was the only solution,
to give me the needed professional help,
to protect me from the enemy - Myself
Doesn't matter, I'll probably get hit by a car anyways.
[end of lyrics]
People might argue that, "Well, many other kids do okay with this form of things", and they would be right, to a degree. But just because its sort of functional, doesn't mean it shouldn't be revamped. It doesn't mean, its not dysfunctional. And it doesn't mean, it won't create the disaffected. Those searching for meaning, even if it doesn't exist. Those two things, can make one crazy; especially, a youth searching for an answer and worse when no answer is forthcoming,
Perhaps, Walt Kelly in his Pogo comic strip, was right, when he first said
"We Have Met The Enemy and He Is Us"
on a poster for Earth Day in 1970.
Perhaps, we HAVE met the enemy, and it really is US.
Bill Maher's Real Time closing monologue - ep.194 October 22nd 2010
... if I were you, I'd really want her [Christine O'Donnel] to stop saying, "she is you" [in her ad].
86% of Tea Partiers think climate change is a hoax. That's not you.
Tea Partiers want to repeal the healthcare law. But two-thirds of Americans either like it or want it to go further. 59% of Americans support Gay marriage and civil unions.
The Tea Partiers support traditional gender roles, where men are in charge, like Glen Beck.
[laughter]
And women are soft and emotionally fragile, with spooky mood swings, like Glen Beck.
[big laughter and applause]
Six in ten Americans think illegal Mexicans should have a path to citizenship and be allowed to stay here. And the other four in ten ARE illegal Mexicans.
[laughter]
Now, I know that you Tea Baggers at home are already blogging, "if Americans are like you Bill, then how come the Republicans are going to take over the Congress?"
Well, first of all, thank you for watching.
[laughter]
I know there's wrestling on another channel.
[big laughter]
And second, to answer your question, the Democrats will lose because, "A", they don't brag about their achievements.
[light applause]
And "B", they never get it, that these days you have to sum up your message in one succint phrase, like:
"We'll cut your taxes."
Or, "Here's a photo of my penis."
[laughter]
Which brings me to the one succint phrase that could keep the Democrats in power in 2012.
"We will legalize Pot."
[thunderous applause and cheering]
Wait, I'm not saying this just to get cheap applause. Although, I have achieved that goal. [laughter] I'm saying it because reliable surveys tell us that there's only one thing that will rouse our precious youth to the voting booth; the way "Jackass in 3D" got them out to the theaters.
[laughter]
And that's, Pot. It's the unwritten second half of Obama's slogan: "Yes we can... get high at the mall." [laughter]
Now, in the legalization of marijuana, the Democrats finally could have something they have always wanted. A "wedge issue".
Remember "wedge issues"? Things like Gay marriage, and Prayer in school, and other bullshit that Republicans used for years to get hillbillies to the poll.
[light applause]
That's how Bush got elected in 2004.
[applause]
You know this. Its the facts.
[applause]
Carl Rove put Gay marriage on the ballot in eleven key states knowing that all the Christian shit kickers would come out against boys kissing and stick around to pull the level for "Buggles the clown" [Bush].
[laughter]
Now Nationwide, young people eighteen to twenty-nine, are expected to make up just 6% of those voting in the mid-terms. Six percent? I've seen more young people than that at Larry King's Canasta parties.
[laughter]
I actually have.
[laughter]
But here in California, where the "weed" legalizing proposition 19 is on the ballot, the kids are expected to make up 12% of the voters. Still pathetic, but to go from 6% to 12%? That's...well, I'm a little stoned right now but a lot.
[laughter]
All right, that's our show....
[big applause and laughter]
From Real Time with Bill Maher (episode 194)
86% of Tea Partiers think climate change is a hoax. That's not you.
Tea Partiers want to repeal the healthcare law. But two-thirds of Americans either like it or want it to go further. 59% of Americans support Gay marriage and civil unions.
The Tea Partiers support traditional gender roles, where men are in charge, like Glen Beck.
[laughter]
And women are soft and emotionally fragile, with spooky mood swings, like Glen Beck.
[big laughter and applause]
Six in ten Americans think illegal Mexicans should have a path to citizenship and be allowed to stay here. And the other four in ten ARE illegal Mexicans.
[laughter]
Now, I know that you Tea Baggers at home are already blogging, "if Americans are like you Bill, then how come the Republicans are going to take over the Congress?"
Well, first of all, thank you for watching.
[laughter]
I know there's wrestling on another channel.
[big laughter]
And second, to answer your question, the Democrats will lose because, "A", they don't brag about their achievements.
[light applause]
And "B", they never get it, that these days you have to sum up your message in one succint phrase, like:
"We'll cut your taxes."
Or, "Here's a photo of my penis."
[laughter]
Which brings me to the one succint phrase that could keep the Democrats in power in 2012.
"We will legalize Pot."
[thunderous applause and cheering]
Wait, I'm not saying this just to get cheap applause. Although, I have achieved that goal. [laughter] I'm saying it because reliable surveys tell us that there's only one thing that will rouse our precious youth to the voting booth; the way "Jackass in 3D" got them out to the theaters.
[laughter]
And that's, Pot. It's the unwritten second half of Obama's slogan: "Yes we can... get high at the mall." [laughter]
Now, in the legalization of marijuana, the Democrats finally could have something they have always wanted. A "wedge issue".
Remember "wedge issues"? Things like Gay marriage, and Prayer in school, and other bullshit that Republicans used for years to get hillbillies to the poll.
[light applause]
That's how Bush got elected in 2004.
[applause]
You know this. Its the facts.
[applause]
Carl Rove put Gay marriage on the ballot in eleven key states knowing that all the Christian shit kickers would come out against boys kissing and stick around to pull the level for "Buggles the clown" [Bush].
[laughter]
Now Nationwide, young people eighteen to twenty-nine, are expected to make up just 6% of those voting in the mid-terms. Six percent? I've seen more young people than that at Larry King's Canasta parties.
[laughter]
I actually have.
[laughter]
But here in California, where the "weed" legalizing proposition 19 is on the ballot, the kids are expected to make up 12% of the voters. Still pathetic, but to go from 6% to 12%? That's...well, I'm a little stoned right now but a lot.
[laughter]
All right, that's our show....
[big applause and laughter]
From Real Time with Bill Maher (episode 194)
Saturday, October 23, 2010
Weekend Wise Words
To be idle is a short road to death and to be diligent is a way of life; foolish people are idle, wise people are diligent.
Buddha
There are people who strictly deprive themselves of each and every eatable, drinkable, and smokable which has in any way acquired a shady reputation. They pay this price for health. And health is all they get for it. How strange it is. It is like paying out your whole fortune for a cow that has gone dry.
Mark Twain
The wise ones fashioned speech with their thought, sifting it as grain is sifted through a sieve.
Buddha
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day.
Albert Camus
Buddha
There are people who strictly deprive themselves of each and every eatable, drinkable, and smokable which has in any way acquired a shady reputation. They pay this price for health. And health is all they get for it. How strange it is. It is like paying out your whole fortune for a cow that has gone dry.
Mark Twain
The wise ones fashioned speech with their thought, sifting it as grain is sifted through a sieve.
Buddha
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day.
Albert Camus
Friday, October 22, 2010
Gays in the military
Before I go on, I just wrote a really great blog on this topic. It was one of those articles that you write, then sit back and go, "Damn, I just wrote a really good blog." Then I clicked, "save", and it blew up on me. Its gone, except for the first few lines. Well, with that said, I'm going to try to rewrite it now, but please forgive this rehash. I'll try to make it readable:
I just heard a US General stating that "I can tell you that an overwhelming majority, would like not to be, in a room with a person who is openly homosexual."
Really? Seriously.
What a baby. I mean really. This, is our American Fighting Force? Afraid of a Gay guy? You've got to be joking. What a pussy! Good god. Who really cares? IF that is a true and accurate statement, then we must need laws to put these guys in their place and force them to grow up in a modern society.
That's in part what laws are about. How do you think Blacks were dealt with in the days of the old Jim Crow Laws? They made white folks skin crawl just standing next to them, or drinking from the same fountain of water (ewwww, drink from the same fountain as a darky? No way). Or a Jewish person, how much have they been persecuted over the years? How about Japanese during WWII? Their sons were fighting along side white boys and Black, and in some cases were a great benefit, especially if they could speak Japanese; yet, their families were in Internment camps.
I can't believe the American Fighting man is worried about a Gay guy in the room with them. Sounds more like your lower class, uneducated soldier who needs, what? They need guidance from their superiors on how to act. Laws correct these discrepancies in society.
A Guy person needs to not degrade their uniform. They need not to boast about their sexuality, perhaps, like they do in civilian life. But as a Gay friend of mine for many years has pointed out, I've done the same, and he's had to suffer through my list of romantic situations for decades; yet I've heard very few of his. Something he held back from me out of respect and understanding. I had never realized how blind I was to the things I was saying, how my meeting a hot girl somewhere, kind of grossed him out. When he told me the exact same thing I had told him (and I wasn't giving any explicit details either), what he then said to me, did make me uncomfortable and I didn't really want to hear about it, but I was happy he had fun and found someone interesting. We just had to learn to pull back on what we shared with one another. When we hit that point, one of us would just go, "Okay, I get the drift" and the other would drop it or lighten up.
When I was in the service, I worked along side many Lesbians. I don't remember a single Gay guy. But some preferred working along side Lesbians for a variety of reasons. Our society has raised Lesbians in many cases, just look around at the mainstream ads with two women fondling one another, or alluding to it. Equal treatment for citizens. How did we know they were Lesbians? They didn't date guys, they were macho or masculine, even if they looked feminine. The females that were hetero, well, you could just tell, they flirted typically.
Did we assume some were Lesbian when they were not? Probably, but no one treated them bad, not that I saw anyway. And all the women, except for the ones getting out quickly through pregnancy, worked as hard or harder than the guys around them. And yes there were actually women running around looking for guys to have sex with, to get pregnant, to get out. Some of us, if we could have gotten pregnant, would have just to get out, too.
I think we need to make it clear that as long as any Gay or Lesbian in the military, will lay down their life, or kill to support the mission, we need to let them get to it.
But that has been problematic with heterosexuals throughout the history of the military too. Hasn't it?
One last thing. How is it that Gays get a free ride on this military thing?
All you homophobes, think about this for a moment. If citizens have to go and fight and die for our country, how come we seem to want to let Gays out of that sacrifice. And if they are citizens and you can't argue that they aren't, then they should be out there working too.
Aren't we thinking of this all wrong? What does that say about us? That we're only concerned for how people feel, in the military? Who CARES how the people in the military feel? When I was in the service, I don't remember ANY body caring how I felt about just about anything. "DO this, shut up. If we wanted you to have a smile, or feelings, we would have assigned them to you." THAT's what I remember about it.
So, how come we think Gays should get a free ride? Shouldn't they be out there, fighting and dying along with all the other people, who are straight, or A sexual, or non sexual, or what the hell ever?! Consider, if you think Gays shouldn't be in the military, then you are advocating they get treated special, more special, that the people IN the military. Kind of twisted, don't you think? Almost sounds like you really like them and want to protect them; maybe this has NOTHING to do with what the people IN the service want or think. Maybe its just your subconscious desires to have them stay here, at home, with you?
Think about it.
I just heard a US General stating that "I can tell you that an overwhelming majority, would like not to be, in a room with a person who is openly homosexual."
Really? Seriously.
What a baby. I mean really. This, is our American Fighting Force? Afraid of a Gay guy? You've got to be joking. What a pussy! Good god. Who really cares? IF that is a true and accurate statement, then we must need laws to put these guys in their place and force them to grow up in a modern society.
That's in part what laws are about. How do you think Blacks were dealt with in the days of the old Jim Crow Laws? They made white folks skin crawl just standing next to them, or drinking from the same fountain of water (ewwww, drink from the same fountain as a darky? No way). Or a Jewish person, how much have they been persecuted over the years? How about Japanese during WWII? Their sons were fighting along side white boys and Black, and in some cases were a great benefit, especially if they could speak Japanese; yet, their families were in Internment camps.
I can't believe the American Fighting man is worried about a Gay guy in the room with them. Sounds more like your lower class, uneducated soldier who needs, what? They need guidance from their superiors on how to act. Laws correct these discrepancies in society.
A Guy person needs to not degrade their uniform. They need not to boast about their sexuality, perhaps, like they do in civilian life. But as a Gay friend of mine for many years has pointed out, I've done the same, and he's had to suffer through my list of romantic situations for decades; yet I've heard very few of his. Something he held back from me out of respect and understanding. I had never realized how blind I was to the things I was saying, how my meeting a hot girl somewhere, kind of grossed him out. When he told me the exact same thing I had told him (and I wasn't giving any explicit details either), what he then said to me, did make me uncomfortable and I didn't really want to hear about it, but I was happy he had fun and found someone interesting. We just had to learn to pull back on what we shared with one another. When we hit that point, one of us would just go, "Okay, I get the drift" and the other would drop it or lighten up.
When I was in the service, I worked along side many Lesbians. I don't remember a single Gay guy. But some preferred working along side Lesbians for a variety of reasons. Our society has raised Lesbians in many cases, just look around at the mainstream ads with two women fondling one another, or alluding to it. Equal treatment for citizens. How did we know they were Lesbians? They didn't date guys, they were macho or masculine, even if they looked feminine. The females that were hetero, well, you could just tell, they flirted typically.
Did we assume some were Lesbian when they were not? Probably, but no one treated them bad, not that I saw anyway. And all the women, except for the ones getting out quickly through pregnancy, worked as hard or harder than the guys around them. And yes there were actually women running around looking for guys to have sex with, to get pregnant, to get out. Some of us, if we could have gotten pregnant, would have just to get out, too.
I think we need to make it clear that as long as any Gay or Lesbian in the military, will lay down their life, or kill to support the mission, we need to let them get to it.
But that has been problematic with heterosexuals throughout the history of the military too. Hasn't it?
One last thing. How is it that Gays get a free ride on this military thing?
All you homophobes, think about this for a moment. If citizens have to go and fight and die for our country, how come we seem to want to let Gays out of that sacrifice. And if they are citizens and you can't argue that they aren't, then they should be out there working too.
Aren't we thinking of this all wrong? What does that say about us? That we're only concerned for how people feel, in the military? Who CARES how the people in the military feel? When I was in the service, I don't remember ANY body caring how I felt about just about anything. "DO this, shut up. If we wanted you to have a smile, or feelings, we would have assigned them to you." THAT's what I remember about it.
So, how come we think Gays should get a free ride? Shouldn't they be out there, fighting and dying along with all the other people, who are straight, or A sexual, or non sexual, or what the hell ever?! Consider, if you think Gays shouldn't be in the military, then you are advocating they get treated special, more special, that the people IN the military. Kind of twisted, don't you think? Almost sounds like you really like them and want to protect them; maybe this has NOTHING to do with what the people IN the service want or think. Maybe its just your subconscious desires to have them stay here, at home, with you?
Think about it.
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