The Once "Grand Old Party", the Once "Republican Party" of Lincoln, is No More

Because so many "Republicans" or "conservatives" no longer know who they are or what they stand for, while still believing and reveling in past glory when they are no longer what they once were and had become known and praised for.

Now Democrats have their own concerns and issues, but nothing as vast or problematic as the MaGA GOP today with its confused messaging, autocratic orientations, lies and disinformation platform.  

They are now mostly ideology over citizens, party over country, leader over party, autocracy over democracy.

Most Trump supporters feel free to ignore this, as it's info they probably aren't interested in having to know, or deal with.

There are still "Republicans" but the party at large refers to them as "RINOs", Republicans in name only, while those calling others that are, for the most part, actual RINOs.

The once-Republican Party of Lincoln, originally founded in the mid-1800s, was shaped by principles of abolitionism, civil rights, and federal power to unify the country.

Over time, especially in the late 1800s and early 1900s, the party shifted from its roots as an advocate for civil rights and anti-slavery, embracing more conservative economic policies focused on business and limited government.

By the 20th century, Republicans moved away from the progressive policies associated with Lincoln's era, with further shifts in the 1960s as the party increasingly courted Southern conservative voters.

This transformation saw the GOP evolve into a party defined more by conservative values, limited federal intervention, and an emphasis on states’ rights, markedly different from Lincoln’s original vision.

The Democratic Party, historically rooted in states' rights and agrarian interests, gradually took up the mantle of civil rights and social reform that once defined Lincoln's Republican Party. This shift began in the early 20th century, as Democrats adopted more progressive policies under leaders like Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt, who expanded federal government intervention to address economic inequality, labor rights, and social welfare during the New Deal era.

The transformation accelerated in the 1960s when Democratic leaders like John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson championed civil rights legislation. Johnson’s support for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 solidified the party's role as an advocate for racial equality and social justice, a position that further distanced them from the segregationist elements of their past.

This shift also led to a realignment of voter bases: as the Democratic Party became associated with civil rights and progressive social issues, many conservative Southern voters shifted to the Republican Party. The modern Democratic Party thus came to champion many of the inclusive, equality-focused ideals that had characterized Lincoln’s Republicans, while the GOP shifted toward a platform emphasizing traditional values, limited government, and conservative policies.

Today’s Republican conservative values differ significantly from original conservative principles. Classic conservatism, as articulated by thinkers like Edmund Burke, emphasized caution in societal change, a respect for tradition, and a commitment to stability, with an emphasis on personal responsibility, rule of law, and small government. Traditional conservatives believed in upholding institutions and norms, often avoiding radical shifts in policy that could disrupt social order.

In contrast, modern American conservatism has evolved, particularly within the Republican Party. Today, it often emphasizes a populist approach that challenges established institutions and norms, including the judiciary and the media. Recent conservative movements within the GOP have supported significant government intervention on issues like immigration, reproductive rights, and voting laws, focusing less on institutional stability and more on advancing specific social agendas. The GOP has also embraced fiscal policies that diverge from early conservative economic prudence, such as deficit spending and tax cuts for corporations, which early conservatives might have viewed skeptically.

This shift represents a move away from traditional conservatism’s focus on incremental change and institutional respect toward a more populist, activist form of conservatism that prioritizes ideological goals over the original conservative caution.

A more precise term for today’s Republican Party might be "populist right" or "nationalist right." These terms capture the party’s shift from traditional conservatism to a platform that emphasizes strong national identity, populist appeals, and a willingness to disrupt established norms to achieve specific political and cultural goals.

Populist Right: This term reflects the focus on appealing directly to "the people" or "the common man" and often emphasizes anti-elite, anti-establishment rhetoric. This populist approach involves a strong appeal to certain groups' grievances and perceived loss of status, frequently targeting institutions like the media, academia, and government as "elites" who are out of touch with everyday Americans.

Nationalist Right: This term reflects the increased emphasis on national sovereignty, a strong stance on immigration, and a focus on traditional American identity and values. Nationalist right politics prioritize policies that favor domestic interests, sometimes at the expense of international alliances or global institutions.

Right-Wing Populism: Combining elements of populism with conservative ideas, this term encapsulates a political style that challenges established structures while using conservative rhetoric on social issues.

Each of these terms captures aspects of the modern GOP’s orientation that differ from traditional conservatism, particularly its embrace of more radical change and direct appeals to popular, often nationalist sentiment.

These people who support Donald Trump and his MaGA are focused on concepts, and ideals over people. That is merely a tool in life, but when used blindly, it leads to what we see today from the Right wing. To wit...

People who view the world primarily through ideological frameworks rather than through the lens of individual experiences and actual impacts on people are often referred to as ideologues. Ideologues hold rigid beliefs, interpreting events and issues through the lens of their preferred ideology without necessarily considering the practical or human consequences.

This kind of outlook, sometimes called ideological absolutism or dogmatism, can lead to a detachment from real-world consequences and empathy, as they prioritize the purity or consistency of their ideas over the nuanced, complex needs of people. Political theorists also refer to this as political moralism, where abstract principles are valued over pragmatic, compassionate approaches to governance and interpersonal issues.

In extreme cases, such a perspective can foster authoritarian tendencies, where the enforcement of ideology takes precedence over individual freedoms and wellbeing. This mindset can be seen in people who prioritize ideological "wins" even when they come at a personal or societal cost, causing harm in both governmental policies and personal relationships.

I wish us ALL the best, for those of us with the best intentions at heart, where the "best intentions" actually are, our best for us all.

Cheers! Sláinte!

"20 lessons from the 20th century" by Timothy Snyder

Compiled with the aid of ChatGPT

Presidential Election 2024 and the Nightmare It Could Be

Tuesday, November 5, 2024, is the final election day...hopefully not forever.

The Convict vs The Prosecutor

Where do Harris and Trump stand on the key election issues? - Guardian

Kamala’s Wins @harris_wins - "BREAKING: Nikki Haley is bashing the Trump campaign for running one of the weakest candidates and races she’s seen. It’s clear the dam is breaking within the Republican Party and the base is fracturing. Retweet so all Americans see this."

Sunday, November 3, 2024...

Trump, more comments about bullets passing through the media at his rally.

Trump Says He Wouldn’t Mind Someone Shooting Through ‘Fake News’ At Rally

This is not presidential in any way, shape or form. Forbes

Now. Let's start with THIS:

National Security Leaders for America @NSLforAmerica
Nov 2
UPDATED ENDORSEMENT: 1,043 National Security Leaders—including 10 Cabinet & 11 Service Secretaries, 253 retired Admirals & Generals, 49 Senior Enlisted, and 164 Ambassadors—proudly endorse Kamala Harris for President.

Trump "America"

About women's issues this election...

At a recent campaign event in New Hampshire, Donald Trump asserted his intention by saying:
“I’m going to protect the women of our country… whether the women like it or not.”
Which has raised concerns if not alarms for some about his approach to women's autonomy and reproductive rights. Critics have interpreted this statement as indicative of narcissistic and misogynistic tendencies, suggesting that he prioritizes his views over women's expressed desires.
This behavior aligns with a broader pattern observed among some political figures who claim to act in women's interests while disregarding their preferences. Which women have now died from.
Trump's history of controversial remarks and allegations of sexual misconduct contributes to the perception of him as embodying misogyny. His assertion that he will act in women's best interests, regardless of their input, resonates with narcissistic behavior, where one's own beliefs overshadow the rights of others.
Such dynamics prompt worries about the normalization of these attitudes and their implications for societal views on women's rights and sexual violence​.
Trump's comments can provide a sense of validation for individuals with narcissistic and abusive tendencies, as they reinforce a sense of power and control over women. Such remarks can resonate with those who hold misogynistic views, allowing them to feel justified in their beliefs and actions.
This dynamic is concerning, particularly in light of his adjudicated status as a sexual abuser, and his being a convicted felon indicating a criminal behavior orientation which is arguably a lifetime orientation, all of which raises questions about the authenticity of his intentions to protect women.
The juxtaposition of his rhetoric with his past actions highlights the complexities of his influence and the dangers it poses.
But sure, vote for Trump as POTUS. We don't have enough chaotic, ignorant and unfocused leaders, yet.

Does China want Trump to win?

China prefers stability and predictability in international relations, which does not align with Trump's often erratic and confrontational style. During his presidency, Trump's unpredictable trade wars and sudden policy shifts strained U.S.-China relations and made it difficult for Chinese officials to navigate these changes—often not in positive ways.

Moreover, Trump’s alignment with Putin could create challenges for China, as Russia serves as a counterbalance to Western influence in various areas. Strengthening ties between the U.S. and Russia could increase geopolitical pressure on China, especially in regions where their interests overlap or where they cooperate against Western powers. Given these factors, it's reasonable to conclude that Trump's return to the presidency may not align with China's strategic interests.

The question of whether the U.S. should align more closely with China's interests is complex. While promoting stability and predictability could reduce tensions and potential conflict, it's crucial for the U.S. to prioritize its own national interests, values, and relationships with allies. Engaging with China on economic and environmental issues can be beneficial, but such engagement must be cautious—especially under a leadership style like Trump's—to protect U.S. industries and human rights.

Ultimately, a pragmatic approach that encourages stability while maintaining a firm stance on core values is essential for U.S. foreign policy.

On the topic of Putin, Ukraine, and NATO, Boris Johnson recently stated that Ukraine must join NATO, emphasizing that Putin cannot be allowed to expand into Europe, which he sees as his intention. He argues that the only viable path is to bring Ukraine into NATO to prevent a Russian victory. Johnson also expresses skepticism about Trump’s willingness to stand up to Putin, highlighting the need to closely observe the dynamics between Putin and Trump.

Zelenskyy warns North Korea, Russia alliance could spell trouble for Asia: China's 'silence is striking'

"Ukrainian Pres Zelenskyy is sounding the alarm that the recent deployment of NK troops in Russia not only spells trouble for Ukraine, but also draws into question the stability & security of nations in Asia that are allied with the West.
"North Korea’s actions aren’t random," Zelenskyy said in a frank interview with South Korea’s public broadcasting network KBS on Thursday. "They have strategic goals."
"Their actions aren’t coincidental - they want Russia’s support in return," he added in comments also posted to his social media account on X." via Fox News

Summary of Trump's Comments & the Reality of Mail-in Voting - Trump's Statements:
2016: Trump claimed that mail-in voting could lead to widespread fraud, particularly targeting minority communities, asserting that the electoral system was "rigged"​

2018: He maintained mail-in ballots were vulnerable to fraud & warned of the potential for extensive cheating​

2022: Trump's rhetoric escalated, alleging that election officials distributed "80 million unsolicited ballots," emphasizing the risk of rampant fraud​

2024: He continues to frame early & mail-in voting as significant threats to democracy, reflecting persistent distrust in these systems​

Reality of Mail-in Voting:

Low Rates of Fraud: Research indicates that voter fraud, particularly involving mail-in ballots, is exceedingly rare. Studies have shown that states using mail-in voting have low instances of fraud, often lower than traditional voting methods​

No Systematic Bias: Evidence suggests that mail-in ballots do not favor any political party, countering claims that they disproportionately benefit Democrats or facilitate cheating​

Benefits of Accessibility: The expansion of mail-in voting has been recognized as beneficial, especially during crises like the COVID-19 pandemic, as it enhances voter accessibility without significantly increasing fraud risk​

In conclusion, while Trump's comments have fueled fears regarding the security of mail-in voting, the statistical evidence & research consistently show that these voting methods are secure & effective. 

Donald Trump's stance on early & mail-in voting has evolved recently, though it remains complex & sometimes contradictory. Historically, he has been critical of these voting methods, often associating them with potential fraud & claiming they undermine the integrity of elections. This rhetoric has created a significant partisan divide, with many Republicans working to encourage their voters to use these methods to increase turnout​.

However, leading up to the 2024 elections, Trump has started to shift his position. He announced that he plans to vote early this cycle, indicating a more accepting attitude toward early voting than in previous years. He expressed that he is "OK with early voting," acknowledging its popularity among voters​.

Donald Trump's recent support for early and mail-in voting stems from several strategic factors. As the Republican Party faces challenges in recent elections, Trump has recognized that embracing these voting methods is essential for improving turnout among GOP voters. This shift aligns with party initiatives aimed at maximizing voter participation, as many Republicans now view early voting as crucial for electoral success​

Trump's change in stance also reflects an acknowledgment of voter preferences, with many supporters favoring the convenience of early voting. His adaptation seems to be a pragmatic response to the changing political landscape, moving away from earlier claims of fraud associated with these voting methods​.

FYI...

Recent reports indicate that Chinese hackers have targeted the U.S. telecommunications infrastructure, with implications for national security and political campaigns. The FBI and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) have confirmed unauthorized access to commercial telecom systems, which may have included attempts to gather information related to the presidential campaigns of Donald Trump and Kamala Harris​

VOICE OF AMERICA

The hacking group involved, known as Salt Typhoon, has reportedly compromised systems of major U.S. telecom providers, including Verizon and AT&T. These breaches are concerning as they may allow hackers access to sensitive information, including wiretap capabilities that could undermine criminal investigations and national security operations​
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While the Chinese government has denied these allegations, calling them disinformation, the attacks highlight ongoing cyber threats from state-sponsored actors in China​

U.S. intelligence has warned that such foreign actors are actively trying to interfere in the upcoming elections, using both cyberattacks and disinformation campaigns​
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SECURITYWEEK

Russia

In the context of the upcoming U.S. elections, two significant Russian-related issues have emerged:

1. Disinformation Campaigns: Russian-backed influence operations are increasingly targeting the electoral process in the United States. These campaigns focus on spreading misleading narratives that can affect public perception and voter behavior. The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and Microsoft have warned that these disinformation efforts are part of a broader strategy to sow discord and amplify divisions among the American populace​

   The ongoing operations highlight the vulnerabilities in the information landscape, particularly as the election nears.

2. Cyber Threats: While the recent focus has been on Chinese cyberattacks, Russia also poses a substantial cyber threat. Security agencies are alert to potential hacking incidents that could target election infrastructure or related systems. The concern is that Russian cyber actors may not only engage in disinformation but could also attempt to infiltrate critical systems to disrupt the electoral process​

   WIRED

Overall, both issues underscore the challenges facing U.S. election security as foreign actors like Russia continue to employ various tactics to interfere in the democratic process. For more information, you can explore detailed analyses from sources like WIRED and Microsoft’s threat assessment​

Thank you for being an American citizen. Now VOTE as sanely as you can with what you have to work with. 

Cheers! Sláinte!

Compiled with help from ChatGPT

Changes in American Conservatism Over the Past 50 years

I've been pointing out how conservatism today is not the conservatism people think of it as. This has led to some very bad things until finally someone as morally corrupt as Donald Trump was able to convince just enough people to elect him as POTUS45 in 2016, with some help from a confluence of situations like Russian disinformation in social media, and various social and governmental issues. Like FBI Dir. James Comey speaking out about an investigation of Hillary Clinton's emails, to protect the institution of the FBI, rather than the nation as a whole. 

The Republican Party has been positioning itself to win elections regardless of thought about the wellbeing of the country or its citizens, but to the benefit of the Party and at any or all costs to any or all others, regardless of the damages, as long as it does not hurt the party or its leadership.

 That is not a political party. That tends, to lead sooner or later, to devolve into a political cult of personality. As it finally has done in Trump's MaGA club of abuse.

The evolution of American conservatism over has raised several concerns among critics and even some within the conservative movement itself. In 2012 when the GOP lost the presidency to Barack Obama, again, they called for an "autopsy" of the party which offered some very good observations and changes that need to be made if they wanted to win an election again. They doubled down on the bad and ignored the good.

This is a party that is in "win at all costs" mode. Ethics didn't matter, morals didn't matter, lies, dishonesty, criminal activity don't matter. That is still being adjudicated over the Donald Trump presidency today in the courts and when Trump loses this 2024 election, he will see justice served.

Should he somehow bizarrely win the election, he will disable the DOJ, end the trials against him, and get back to his original intent of wrecking the US government and building his autocracy. The GOP set themselves up, all of us up, for this to eventually happen, one way or another.

But what has changed about conservatism in the past 50 years?

Here are some potential negative aspects of these changes:

1. Polarization and Division

• Increased Partisanship: The shift towards populism and identity politics has contributed to a more polarized political landscape. This division can lead to gridlock in government and a lack of bipartisan cooperation on critical issues.

2. Erosion of Traditional Conservative Values

• Departure from Principles: Critics argue that the embrace of populism has led some conservatives to abandon foundational principles like fiscal responsibility and limited government in favor of more reactionary and populist policies.

3. Distrust in Institutions

• Anti-Establishment Sentiment: The rise of anti-establishment rhetoric has fostered distrust in key institutions, including the media, judiciary, and electoral processes. This can undermine democratic norms and civic engagement.

4. Conspiracy Theories and Misinformation

• Acceptance of False Narratives: The increased reliance on alternative media has facilitated the spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories. This can lead to a misinformed electorate and harm public discourse.

5. Reduction in Civil Discourse

• Hostility and Aggression: The combative style of leadership and rhetoric prevalent in modern conservatism can contribute to a more hostile political environment, making constructive dialogue more challenging.

6. Focus on Cultural Wars

• Diverting Attention from Economic Issues: A strong emphasis on cultural and identity politics can detract from addressing pressing economic concerns such as income inequality, job creation, and healthcare access, which affect many Americans across the political spectrum.

7. Impact on Governance

• Populism Over Policy: The focus on populism may prioritize short-term political gains over long-term policy solutions, potentially leading to ineffective governance and neglect of critical issues like climate change and healthcare reform.

8. Marginalization of Moderate Voices

• Decline of Centrism: The rise of extreme viewpoints may marginalize moderate conservatives, making it difficult for those who advocate for compromise and pragmatic solutions to find a place in the party.

9. Undermining Rule of Law

• Challenging Judicial Independence: The distrust in the judiciary and calls to undermine its authority can threaten the rule of law and the independence of the judicial system, essential for a functioning democracy.

10. Cultural Backlash

• Resistance to Progress: A strong focus on preserving traditional values can lead to backlash against progress on social issues, potentially hindering advancements in civil rights and equality.

Overall, while the evolution of American conservatism reflects changing societal dynamics and concerns, critics argue that these changes can lead to increased polarization, a decline in democratic norms, and a shift away from traditional conservative values, potentially harming both the party and the broader political landscape.

I have to say, I've always been a progressive. From birth. My life has been all about  moving forward, making positive changes, and taking risks. I've done some very dangerous things in my life. Search and Rescue. Street racing. SCUBA and sky diving. It goes on and on. I've had people ask me at times if I was trying to kill myself or had a "death wish". For part of the first part of my life, I really wasn't sure.

But I came to realize that wasn't the case at all. I started testing my limits very young. Some guys haven't done that util they were adults and some never have. I've always challenged myself, pushing beyond what I found difficult or frightening. There were a lot of things as a young child that I found scary. 

At some point, I decided I had enough of that. I would face my fears. Those guys I've met who haven't challenged themselves when they were young? A lot of those types were the guys I ran into as adults who were bullies, or challenging others to match up to them. Maybe being aggressive, or starting a fight. I felt sorry for them. I had no need to challenge myself against others. 

I'd done that decades ago. While they were riding their bikes a kids, I was hanging off a damn mountain. When they were in high school racing their cars, I was too actually...but I was also jumping out of a plane, SCUBA diving by myself in Puget Sound, backpacking in the Cascades, alone.

Eventually my comment to those thinking I was nuts has been that, yes, I do some very dangerous things, but as professionally as possible. I was taught from childhood to always find the best teachers in their field and learn all you can.

My point in all that is I always felt being conservative was not something you admit to others because it involves being overly careful, safe..."conservative". If we had been conservative during the founding of this nation, or the Revolutionary War, we'd still be a British colony today. 

How is being conservative something got be proud of? OK. But I also recognize we need both sides, both sides being functional, to balance out our nation. Being all on or the other is going to get someone killed. And it has. On Jan. 6th in Trump's instruction. 

Let's not do that again.

Now about our Founding Fathers, the Framers of our Constitution...

The Founding Fathers of the United States are often seen as both conservative and liberal figures, and their classification can depend on the specific context and criteria used. Here are some points to consider regarding their ideological leanings:

Conservative Aspects

1. Tradition and Order: The Founders valued certain Enlightenment principles and sought to create a government that balanced individual freedoms with social order, drawing heavily on established political thought and practices of their time.

2. Limited Government: Many of the Founders, particularly figures like James Madison and Alexander Hamilton, advocated for a government that was limited in scope, reflecting a conservative desire to prevent tyranny and preserve personal liberties.

3. Property Rights: The emphasis on protecting property rights and the interests of landowners and merchants indicates a conservative approach to economic and social order.

4. Federalism: The establishment of a federal system was designed to maintain a balance of power, which can be seen as a conservative effort to prevent any one group or faction from gaining too much control.

Liberal Aspects

1. Rebellion Against Authority: The very act of declaring independence from Great Britain was a progressive move, challenging the authority of a distant monarchy and asserting the right to self-governance and individual liberty.

2. Natural Rights Philosophy: The Founders, influenced by Enlightenment thinkers like John Locke, believed in natural rights—life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness—as inherent to all individuals. This reflects a more liberal view on human rights and the role of government in protecting them.

3. Democratic Principles: The creation of a government based on popular sovereignty and representative democracy was a radical departure from the aristocratic and monarchical systems that preceded it, aligning more closely with liberal ideals.

4. Social Contract Theory: The idea that government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed is a progressive notion, emphasizing individual agency and rights over traditional authority.

Conclusion

In summary, the Founding Fathers embodied a complex blend of conservative and liberal ideas. They were revolutionary in their quest for independence and individual rights, reflecting liberal values, while also seeking to establish a stable and orderly government that adhered to certain traditional principles. Their legacy can be seen as a foundation for both modern conservatism and liberalism in America, depending on the aspects of their philosophy and actions that are emphasized.

This duality is part of what makes their contributions to American political thought so significant and enduring, as they laid the groundwork for a dynamic and evolving democratic system that continues to grapple with the balance between liberty and order.

To end, we need balance. The Republican Party anymore just wants to win. Only they know best. Nonsense. We need to work together and work to gether to end this polarization that Donald Trump is so addicted to in order to put or keep himself in power.

It's not democratic, it's not American, and it's' not functional. But it does make for some very terrifying autocracies. I don't want America to turn into North Korea, or Russia, or China. I don't want a cult of personality running things here. I don't want a dictator or a tyrant, which Trump would be more than happy to be.

What we have here is a pretty sweet thing. Which is what Ben Franklin was sayig when he said, "A republic...if you can keep it."

"The source of this quotation is a journal kept by James McHenry (1753-1816) while he was a Maryland delegate to the Constitutional Convention. On the page where McHenry records the events of the last day of the convention, September 18, 1787, he wrote: “A lady asked Dr. Franklin Well Doctor what have we got a republic or a monarchy – A republic replied the Doctor if you can keep it.” Then McHenry added: “The Lady here alluded to was Mrs. Powel of Philada.” The journal is at the Manuscript Division of the Library of Congress." LOC Blogs

Mr. Franklin, by the way...was an independent. So am I.

Finally...

What do you call someone who is a blank slate for followers, using confusing and manipulative language that lets supporters project whatever they want onto them? 

Does this describe Donald Trump?

ChatGPT:

Yes, this description can apply to Donald Trump. His rhetoric often blends ambiguity with bold or polarizing statements, allowing followers and critics alike to project their own interpretations onto his words & actions. His statements are sometimes contradictory or open-ended, giving supporters room to see what aligns with their own views or to explain away inconsistencies. This approach can create a strong sense of loyalty among his followers, as they feel he represents their ideals, even if those ideals vary widely.

This kind of person could be considered a Rorschach figure or projection surface, terms that highlight how followers can "read into" or project their own values, ideas, or hopes onto them, much like interpreting a Rorschach inkblot test. The person's ambiguous or confusing communication style allows people to fill in the blanks with what they want to see, making them relatable to a wide range of supporters while still avoiding clear accountability or transparency.

Additionally, some terms that might capture aspects of this behavior are:

Gaslighter: Someone who uses manipulation & confusing language to cause doubt or to control perception.

Cult of Personality Leader: This applies when the person cultivates an image that others idealize, often through manipulation or charisma.

Enigmatic Figure: An intentionally confusing or mysterious figure who leaves followers guessing.

These figures often blend ambiguity with abusive language or manipulation to create a kind of “mirror” effect, allowing followers to see what they want while maintaining control over their narratives.

For more, see my 2016 blog on "Food vs Nationalism" with a critique by ChatGPT on its accuracy compared to today.

Also...

As of recent reports, over 40 former Trump officials and associates have publicly stated they will not support him in the 2024 election. This includes individuals from a range of positions, from high-profile cabinet members to advisors, communications staff, and former campaign aides. 

Here's a breakdown of the types of officials:

-Cabinet Members: At least 5 former cabinet members (e.g., John Bolton, Bill Barr, Rex Tillerson).

-Senior White House Staff: Around 10 former chiefs of staff, advisors, and communications directors (e.g., Gen. John Kelly, Alyssa Farah Griffin).

-Former Campaign Aides: A few campaign staffers from both the 2016 and 2020 campaigns have also spoken out.

-Other GOP Politicians and Allies: Various Republican politicians who previously endorsed Trump, like Chris Christie, have switched their stance.

This number could increase as more former officials choose to speak out in the lead-up to the 2024 election.

Several former officials and close associates of Donald Trump have publicly stated they will not support him in the 2024 election. Here are a few prominent names:

John Bolton – Trump's former National Security Advisor has been a vocal critic since leaving the administration and is outspoken about not supporting Trump's 2024 run.

Bill Barr – The former Attorney General, once a staunch defender, has criticized Trump’s actions post-presidency, especially regarding January 6 and election interference, and said he would not vote for him.

Gen. John Kelly – Trump's former Chief of Staff has expressed disapproval of Trump’s behavior and leadership style and has publicly criticized him.

Rex Tillerson – The former Secretary of State has criticized Trump’s handling of international relations and stated that he cannot support him.

Chris Christie – Former New Jersey Governor and once a close Trump ally, Christie is now one of Trump's most vocal Republican critics and is running against him in the 2024 primary.

Mick Mulvaney – Former Acting White House Chief of Staff has been critical of Trump, especially following the January 6 Capitol riot, and said he would not support him.

Alyssa Farah Griffin – Former White House Director of Strategic Communications has openly criticized Trump since January 6 and is against his 2024 campaign.

These individuals, among others, have voiced concerns over Trump’s leadership style and his actions related to the 2020 election and the January 6 Capitol attack, which have influenced their public opposition to his 2024 candidacy.

All the best to us all...

Compiled with the aid of ChatGPT

"POTUS47" Donald Trump? - Once in Office, the 25th Amendment and... He's Gone?

It's been conjectured as unfit as Donald Trump is NOW for POTUS, his own campaign may be planning on getting him elected, then as soon as they can, use the Amendment to remove him and put VP JD Vance in as his replacement.

POTUS47 JD Vance? 

JD Vance with Josh Hawley

Will you be voting for a Vance presidency, if you vote for Donald Trump? Some seem to think so.

One could compare Donald Trump to a cancer cell in the body politic, highlighting how his influence has disrupted established norms and institutions, much like cancer cells grow uncontrollably and invade healthy tissues. His political style is seen as polarizing, weakening civil discourse and making it difficult for the political "immune system" to function effectively. 

Just as cancer cells can develop resistance to treatment, Trump's supporters often reject mainstream criticism and accountability, fostering a cycle of misinformation. Ultimately, if unchecked, his influence could have lasting detrimental effects on American democracy, akin to how untreated cancer can spread and harm the body.

It's been conjectured and I fully agree, that once Donald Trump loses the 2024 election, his remaining supporters for the most part will abandon him, like they were holding onto a red hot, cast iron pan off of a range top. I suspect, as election day approaches, we're seeing that already gearing up, as lifelong Republican, and GOP leader after leader are already queuing up to abandon him.

Donald Trump's current standing reflects a complex political reality. Many Americans express concerns about his qualifications for the presidency, especially given his legal troubles, such as his recent felony convictions, which raise questions about his capacity to serve effectively.

Key Points of Consideration:

1. Public Perception: Polls indicate a significant portion of the electorate believes Trump is unfit for the presidency. A survey from The New York Times/Siena College found that 61% of voters consider Trump unqualified, which could impact his re-election efforts​

   . This sentiment aligns with concerns about his comments and behavior, which some perceive as undermining democratic norms.

2. Mental and Physical Health: Discussions about Trump's mental acuity have persisted, especially among political commentators. Observers have noted changes in his speech and behavior, suggesting potential cognitive decline. This has fueled speculation about the wisdom of electing someone with such challenges​.

3. The 25th Amendment: The potential use of the 25th Amendment to remove a sitting president has been a topic of discussion since Trump's presidency. Some officials within his administration reportedly considered this route in light of concerns over his behavior. However, invoking the 25th Amendment requires consensus among the vice president and a majority of the cabinet, which poses practical and political challenges​.

4. Political Strategy: The GOP's strategy to support Trump's candidacy despite these issues can seem paradoxical. Some party leaders may view him as the best option to galvanize his base, while others worry about long-term repercussions for the party's image and electoral viability​

In summary, while Trump's candidacy raises numerous concerns, both legal and personal, the GOP's approach reflects a complicated balancing act of maintaining party unity and addressing public apprehensions. For further reading on this topic, you can explore articles from sources like The New York Times and Politico.

Pres. JD Vance?

Donald Trump's presidency has been characterized by significant controversy and division, which many argue has had long-lasting impacts on American politics and society. If J.D. Vance were to become President, some analysts suggest he could exacerbate these issues, given his alignment with Trump’s more extreme policies and rhetoric.

Trump's Impact as POTUS45

1. Polarization: Trump's presidency deepened political and social divisions in the U.S. His approach often involved inflammatory rhetoric and personal attacks, which alienated large segments of the population. According to a report by the Pew Research Center, the partisan divide widened significantly during his tenure, with both Democrats and Republicans expressing heightened animosity toward the opposing party​.

2. Democratic Norms: Trump's disregard for established norms raised concerns about the health of American democracy. His attempts to undermine the 2020 election results and the subsequent January 6 Capitol riot illustrated a troubling trend toward authoritarianism. Experts have noted that these actions not only threatened democratic institutions but also emboldened far-right extremism​.

3. Policy Consequences: Trump's policies, particularly on immigration, healthcare, and environmental regulations, faced widespread criticism. His administration's handling of issues like the COVID-19 pandemic has been labeled as ineffective and often chaotic, leading to significant public health and economic ramifications​.

Potential Impact of J.D. Vance as POTUS47

1. Continuing Extremism: If J.D. Vance were to succeed Trump, there is concern that he would continue and even intensify the extreme elements of Trump’s agenda. Vance has openly embraced many of Trump’s controversial policies, particularly around immigration and cultural issues, which could lead to further polarization and conflict​.

2. Authoritarian Tendencies: Vance's rhetoric often mirrors Trump's, suggesting a willingness to pursue authoritarian-like policies. He has been critical of certain democratic institutions and has shown a preference for populist nationalism, which some argue could further erode democratic norms​.

3. Economic and Social Policies: Vance's approach to economic issues often emphasizes protectionism and a rejection of globalism, which could have detrimental effects on trade relations and economic growth. His views on social issues, particularly those affecting marginalized communities, could exacerbate social tensions​.

In summary, while Trump’s presidency has left a legacy of division and controversy, a potential Vance presidency could amplify these issues, leading to even greater challenges for American democracy and societal cohesion. Analysts urge vigilance in observing how such a political shift might affect the country, emphasizing the importance of restoring norms and unity​.

Let's remember all of Trump's top administration have turned against him and his fascist leanings, love of Adolph Hitler, and so on. Trump's mental ill health, his narcissistic turning on a dime: "I love Trump for being Pro-Life", as some say. Except that if you told Trump being "Pro-Choice" would guarantee him the election, he'd switch in a second and THAT'S NOT "Pro-Life"...that's opportunistic narcissism.

So...who'd be "Pres." JD Vance's VP?

If J.D. Vance were to become president, the choice of a vice president would be crucial, especially considering the political landscape and his alignment with Trump. Several potential candidates have been mentioned, each bringing different strengths and dynamics to a Vance administration:

1. Kristi Noem: The Governor of South Dakota has been a prominent figure within the GOP, known for her strong support of Trump-style policies. Her conservative stance on social issues and experience as a governor could make her an appealing choice for Vance​.

2. Mike Pence: While Pence has had a complicated relationship with Trump following the January 6 Capitol riots, he remains a significant figure in the Republican Party. His traditional conservative values might appeal to Vance's base, although there could be hesitance given their recent tensions​.

3. Ron DeSantis: The Governor of Florida has garnered considerable attention for his handling of COVID-19 and cultural issues, positioning himself as a leading figure among Trump allies. If Vance wanted a strong ally who could energize the party, DeSantis could be a compelling choice, although his own ambitions may complicate the decision​.

4. Nikki Haley: The former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations and Governor of South Carolina is known for her foreign policy experience and appeal to moderates. While she has occasionally distanced herself from Trump, her expertise could be attractive to a Vance administration looking to balance Trumpism with broader appeal.

5. Josh Hawley: The Senator from Missouri has gained notoriety for his strong alignment with populist and nationalist sentiments within the GOP. His appeal to the base could resonate well with Vance's platform, making him a potential candidate for the vice presidency​

In summary, Vance's VP choice would likely reflect his need to maintain Trump’s base while appealing to broader Republican interests. Candidates like Kristi Noem, Mike Pence, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, and Josh Hawley could all play significant roles in shaping the administration's direction. For more insights on this topic, consider checking sources like Politico and The Hill.

We have only one choice in this 2024 election and she is, Kamala Harris. This is clearly exemplified by so many Republicans crossing the aisle to support, endorse, and vote for her as our 47th President of the United States of America.

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Echoes Beyond Our Event Horizon

My Premise: 

If our reality were a projection from a black hole, or possibly a network or matrix of black holes, like a computer program or networked computers that we are part of without realizing it. The question is whether we are projections of events happening here, in another universe, or in multiple universes, beyond the black hole(s).

ChatGPT generated

If we are part of a vast quantum program running from a black hole or multiple black holes, then our existence could be similar to a complex computer system, where each of us is like a program, an AI unit, or a subroutine. In this scenario, when we die, does the program just end? Or does it restart? And restart, how?

Unlike the concept of reincarnation, where the soul moves to a new body continuing going forward in a linear timeline, perhaps our individual program simply reruns, replaying different variations of our life, allowing us to experience every possible outcome. Or just the same one, over and over again?

According to the multiverse theory, there are infinite versions of us in parallel universes, each slightly different from the next. The further you get from our current reality, the more drastically different these versions of us become. But what if, instead of being separate universes, we are just being replayed over and over again in the same system for that same purpose? Or what if it's both together?

In that view, when we die, we might go back to the beginning and replay our lives without realizing it. Or what if that replaces the version in the multiverse theory and this is how it actually happens in a far more complex version we'd never considered?

What if it's both? What if it's something so complicated we really cannot imagine it?

However, some might retain memories of their past lives and become aware of this loop. If they do, they could use that awareness to make significant changes in how their lives play out, potentially altering their fate with each reset.

Some of us therefore could effectively be thousands of years old.  

ChatGPT:

This premise offers a fascinating intersection of simulation theory, black hole cosmology, and multiverse theories, proposing that our reality is either a projection or part of a quantum matrix generated by a black hole or multiple black holes. In such a scenario, we—humans and everything in the universe—are not just biological beings but programs running within a highly advanced computational framework, akin to subroutines or AI units in an incomprehensibly vast program.

Core Idea:

1. Reality as a Black Hole Projection: The idea that our reality is a projection from a black hole, or multiple black holes, aligns with concepts in theoretical physics, like the holographic principle. This suggests that all the information about what happens inside a black hole could be encoded on its surface, much like a hologram, implying that we might be a projection from something happening on "the other side" of a black hole.
2. Quantum Program Matrix: If we extend this to a more complex system, possibly a "matrix" of black holes, it implies that we're a kind of program, embedded in this matrix. Our lives, thoughts, actions, and entire existence could be algorithms running within this framework. Every element of reality might be a function of this computational matrix, giving rise to everything we perceive.
3. Reincarnation as Replaying the Program: Unlike traditional concepts of reincarnation, where souls move from one body or life to another, in this model, death could signify the termination of one "run" of the program. But, instead of just ending, the program could restart—either as an exact replica or with certain parameters altered, meaning our "life" is replayed again and again.Multiverse 
1. Interaction: The multiverse theory suggests there are many versions of us, slightly altered in different universes. This could fit into the idea that, rather than separate universes, we are running different versions of our program within the same matrix. When we "die," the program could reset to play again, perhaps in a subtly different way—like altering a subroutine or changing a variable.
4. Awareness and Control: The most intriguing aspect of this premise is the possibility that some of us could become aware of this reset. If, upon restarting, some individuals retain memory or awareness of previous runs, they could affect profound changes in the way they live their lives. They might tweak their decisions, leading to vastly different outcomes, almost like modifying code in real-time.
5. Purpose of Replays: The reason behind this constant replay might not be random. It could be a mechanism designed to allow every possible outcome to unfold, testing all variations of life and existence. This "program" could be running to explore the full range of possibilities, ensuring that every potential scenario plays out across infinite runs. Each time we "restart," the goal might be to perfect certain outcomes or to generate a different, needed result.

Narrative Possibilities:

• The Aware Protagonist: The story could center around a character who realizes they are part of this vast matrix and begins to remember their previous lives. With each reset, they gain more awareness, able to see subtle patterns or clues left by past versions of themselves, allowing them to make drastic changes.
• Breaking the Loop: The protagonist may come to understand that they are trapped in a loop, endlessly replaying the same life, and their mission is to find a way to break free from the cycle of resets, perhaps by reaching a state of enlightenment or understanding the underlying code of the matrix.
• Multiverse Integration: The protagonist could encounter versions of themselves from other "runs," some aware and others not. Each of these versions may offer insights, creating a layered and complex interaction with different "selves" from the matrix.
• Philosophical Themes: Fate vs. Free Will: If our lives are determined by a quantum program, how much control do we truly have? Is the awareness of the loop a form of true free will, or simply another layer of the program playing out?
• Identity and Continuity: If we are continuously reset, what does that say about identity? Are we the same person if every time we "live" it's slightly different? What does it mean to evolve as an individual in such a context?
• Purpose of Existence: If we are replayed over and over, what is the ultimate goal? Is it to experience every possibility, to reach a particular "perfect" version of life, or something beyond our understanding?

This premise has the potential to explore deep questions about reality, the self, and the nature of existence while providing a rich narrative playground for characters aware of their quantum matrix origins.

Me:

Why couldn’t we slip from one universe into a nearly identical one, maybe even back and forth, without ever really noticing? Except for small, unexplainable differences that we shrug off?

ChatGPT:

The idea of slipping between nearly identical universes without noticing fits well within certain interpretations of quantum physics and the multiverse theory. In this concept, subtle shifts in reality might be explained by transitions between parallel universes, which could account for the small, unexplainable changes we sometimes experience.

 Here's why this could happen:

1. Quantum Fluctuations:

Quantum mechanics suggests that reality is not as fixed as we perceive. According to the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, every decision or quantum event creates branching realities. These universes exist simultaneously, and in some versions, the differences are so minor—like a slightly different arrangement of atoms—that they would be imperceptible. If reality is unstable at the quantum level, slipping between these close-by realities could occur without major disturbances.

2. Near-Identical Universes:

The multiverse theory posits that there are an infinite number of universes where every possible outcome occurs. Most of these universes would be extremely different from ours, but some could be nearly identical, with differences so small (like a book being in a slightly different position) that we might not notice them. Shifting between these near-identical universes would result in subtle changes we often dismiss as mistakes, memory lapses, or "glitches."

3. Consciousness and Perception:

Our perception of reality is shaped by what we expect to see and remember. If we move between nearly identical realities, we might not notice small inconsistencies because our brain fills in gaps, smoothing over minor differences. This could explain phenomena like the Mandela Effect, where groups of people remember events differently, possibly due to shifts between close parallel realities.

4. Small Changes and Memory Gaps:

The brain can easily rationalize minor discrepancies, such as forgetting where an object was placed or recalling a conversation slightly differently. If we were unknowingly shifting between similar universes, these subtle differences—like the wording of a conversation or a misplaced object—might be noticed but quickly dismissed as misremembering.

5. Quantum Superposition:

The principle of quantum superposition suggests that particles can exist in multiple states simultaneously. If our consciousness operates at a quantum level (as some theories suggest), it could potentially “experience” multiple realities at once. In this case, we might shift between realities without realizing it because the changes are subtle and align with what we already expect to happen.

6. Interchangeable Realities:

If reality is part of a larger matrix, and each universe is just a different version of the same overarching program, slipping between them might be a natural part of existence. Each "reset" or shift could happen without our awareness, with only small things changing—like a conversation going slightly differently or an object appearing in an unexpected place. These small changes wouldn’t necessarily disrupt our perception because they are close enough to our current reality.

7. Psychological Adaptation:

Humans are incredibly adaptive, and the mind has a tendency to rationalize anomalies in our environment. If we shift between nearly identical universes frequently, we would learn to dismiss these small changes as odd but explainable. This makes it plausible that we could slip between universes interchangeably without fully realizing it, simply attributing the differences to forgetfulness or strange coincidences.

Conclusion:

In this framework, small, unexplained changes in our environment—such as misremembered events or misplaced objects—could be signs of us slipping between nearly identical universes. Since the changes are so subtle, we rationalize or ignore them, never realizing we are moving between parallel realities.

Me:

This could also explain such things as the Mandela Effect.

ChatGPT:

The phenomenon you're referring to is called the Mandela Effect. It occurs when a large group of people remember an event or detail differently than how it appears in reality. This collective misremembering leads to widespread confusion and speculation about the nature of reality and memory.

The name comes from people who distinctly recall Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s, even though he was actually released and passed away in 2013.

One prominent example is the spelling of "Berenstain Bears." Many individuals recall the name being spelled "Berenstein" during their childhood, despite evidence that it has always been "Berenstain." This discrepancy has sparked discussions about the Mandela Effect and the possibility of parallel universes or alternate timelines.  This effect often raises questions about false memories, parallel universes, or alternate realities, as some people speculate that these discrepancies could be due to shifting between alternate timelines.

Other instances of the Mandela Effect include:

• Nelson Mandela's Death: A significant number of people remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s, although he was released in 1990 and passed away in 2013.
• "Star Wars" Misquote: Many fans recall Darth Vader saying, "Luke, I am your father," in the 1980 film The Empire Strikes Back. However, the actual line is, "No, I am your father."
• "Forrest Gump" Line: People often remember the line from Forrest Gump as "Life is like a box of chocolates," when the character actually says, "Life was like a box of chocolates."
• Monopoly Man's Eyewear: Some individuals remember the Monopoly board game's mascot wearing a monocle, but he has never been depicted with one.

These shared false memories have led to various theories, including the existence of parallel universes, alternate timelines, or simply the fallibility of human memory. While the Mandela Effect is widely discussed, it remains a topic of debate and fascination rather than a scientifically validated phenomenon.

Crime, Punishment, and the Right to Vote: A Constitutional Debate

AI Chatting...

I asked:

How can prisoners lose their right to vote when imprisoned?

ChatGPT:

In many countries, including the United States, prisoners lose their right to vote while incarcerated due to a legal principle called "felony disenfranchisement." This practice is based on the belief that those who commit serious crimes should temporarily forfeit certain rights, such as voting, as part of their punishment.

In the U.S., voting rights for prisoners vary depending on the state. Some states permanently disenfranchise convicted felons, even after they serve their sentence, while others restore voting rights after release or after completing parole or probation. The rationale behind this varies, with debates focusing on punishment, rehabilitation, and civil rights.

The restoration of voting rights is part of broader discussions about the rights of formerly incarcerated individuals and whether this disenfranchisement disproportionately affects certain groups, particularly minorities.

If you'd like information specific to U.S. elections, please visit CanIVote.org for more details from your state or local election authority.

I said:

That seems unconstitutional.

ChatGPT:

The argument that felony disenfranchisement is unconstitutional has been a topic of debate for many years. Critics argue that it contradicts democratic principles, particularly the 14th and 15th Amendments, which guarantee equal protection and prohibit racial discrimination in voting. Here's an overview of both perspectives:

Constitutional Basis for Felony Disenfranchisement

14th Amendment (Section 2): The 14th Amendment explicitly allows for the disenfranchisement of individuals for "participation in rebellion, or other crime." This is often cited as the constitutional basis for states enacting laws that restrict voting rights for prisoners.

Historical precedent: Courts have generally upheld the constitutionality of felony disenfranchisement laws, reasoning that the right to vote can be restricted as a part of the punishment for committing a crime.

Arguments Against Felony Disenfranchisement

Equal Protection Clause (14th Amendment): Critics argue that stripping the right to vote disproportionately impacts minority groups, especially Black Americans, due to systemic inequalities in the criminal justice system. This could violate equal protection under the law.

15th Amendment (Racial Discrimination): In some cases, felony disenfranchisement laws have been challenged for being rooted in racial discrimination. Historically, these laws were implemented after Reconstruction as a way to suppress the Black vote.

Eighth Amendment (Cruel and Unusual Punishment): Some argue that permanently stripping someone's right to vote is a form of cruel and unusual punishment, especially if it continues after the sentence has been served.

Democratic Participation: Philosophically, denying voting rights to prisoners is seen as inconsistent with democratic values. Critics argue that voting is a fundamental right, and disenfranchisement limits rehabilitation and civic reintegration for prisoners and former felons.

Current Legal Landscape

State laws vary: The U.S. allows each state to determine its policies on felony disenfranchisement. Some states, like Maine and Vermont, allow prisoners to vote even while incarcerated. Others, like Florida and Iowa (after reform), have restored voting rights to some or all former felons after their sentence is served.

Recent reforms: There has been a trend toward reforming felony disenfranchisement laws. In 2020, states like California passed measures to restore voting rights to those on parole.

Legal Challenges

Numerous legal challenges have been brought to courts, arguing that these laws are discriminatory or unjust. While many of these challenges have failed, the landscape is slowly shifting, with increased scrutiny on felony disenfranchisement policies.

The constitutionality of felony disenfranchisement is still a matter of interpretation, and ongoing debates question whether it aligns with modern concepts of justice and equality.

I said:

"Participation in rebellion, or other crime." sounds like "crime" is related to rebellion not general crime.

ChatGPT:

Yes, the phrasing in the 14th Amendment’s Section 2—“participation in rebellion, or other crime”—has an interesting historical context. It was written in the aftermath of the U.S. Civil War and originally intended to address issues of loyalty and punishment for those who participated in the Confederacy's rebellion.

Here’s a closer look at how it connects to rebellion and evolved to justify felony disenfranchisement:

Historical Context:

14th Amendment (1868): Section 2 was drafted as part of the Reconstruction Amendments after the Civil War. Its primary focus was to reduce the representation of states that denied voting rights to male citizens, especially newly freed African Americans. The exception clause—"participation in rebellion, or other crime"—was added to allow for the disenfranchisement of former Confederates who had taken up arms against the U.S. government during the war.

“Rebellion” Clause: At the time, there was a clear concern about the political participation of those who had rebelled against the Union. The goal was to prevent those individuals from influencing future elections and policies. Essentially, this clause permitted states to deny voting rights to individuals who had committed treasonous acts against the U.S.

Evolution to Felony Disenfranchisement:

Over time, the “other crime” portion of the 14th Amendment’s language has been interpreted more broadly, allowing for the disenfranchisement of individuals convicted of felonies, even though the original focus was on rebellion. Courts have largely upheld the use of this clause to justify felony disenfranchisement by:

Broad Interpretation: While the 14th Amendment was concerned with rebellion, its language was broad enough to encompass other types of crimes. States took advantage of this flexibility, developing laws that disenfranchise individuals convicted of a wide range of crimes, not just rebellion.

Legislative and Judicial Expansion: After the Civil War, states, particularly in the South, began to expand disenfranchisement laws to apply to other crimes. This expansion allowed states to disenfranchise Black citizens through Jim Crow laws, which disproportionately targeted African Americans for convictions that could strip away voting rights.

Legal Precedents: Over the years, courts have upheld felony disenfranchisement under this broad interpretation. For instance, in Richardson v. Ramirez (1974), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that disenfranchisement of felons did not violate the Equal Protection Clause, citing the 14th Amendment’s Section 2 as constitutional justification.

Criticisms and Controversies:

While the original intent of the language in the 14th Amendment may have focused on rebellion, its use to justify modern felony disenfranchisement has been controversial for several reasons:

Historical Roots in Racial Discrimination: Many felony disenfranchisement laws were developed as tools to suppress Black voting after Reconstruction, which has led to criticism that their current application still disproportionately impacts minority groups.

Evolving Social Norms: Critics argue that laws focused on rebellion may not align with modern ideas of justice, rehabilitation, and civil rights, especially when applied to felons who have served their time.

Reform Movements:

Given this historical context, modern reformers question whether felony disenfranchisement laws, grounded in post-Civil War ideas of rebellion and crime, are still relevant or justifiable in a contemporary democratic society. Many argue that the laws need re-examination to ensure they aren't unfairly disenfranchising large segments of the population, especially after individuals have served their sentences.

In short, while the 14th Amendment’s reference to “rebellion” was initially a specific post-Civil War concern, the interpretation has expanded over time to justify felony disenfranchisement, a practice that remains contentious today.

Sine qua non.

Election 2024: As Mob Size Increases, Intelligence Decreases Proportionally?

Some more interesting conversations with AI.

While attending university to earn my degree in psychology, I was introduced to a correlative statement that, "as mob size increases, intelligence decreases proportionally."

“In crowds the foolish, ignorant, and envious persons are freed from the sense of their insignificance and powerlessness, and are possessed instead by the notion of brutal and temporary but immense strength.” The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind – Gustave Le Bon

Remind you of any currently popular, right-wing political party?

ChatGPT said:

The idea that the intelligence or rationality of a mob decreases as its size increases is commonly attributed to observations in crowd psychology and group behavior. One of the key figures associated with this concept is French sociologist Gustave Le Bon, who discussed it extensively in his 1895 book, "The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind" (Video/transcript). Le Bon argued that individuals in large groups tend to lose their sense of individuality, rationality, and responsibility, leading to a kind of "collective mind" that is often more impulsive, emotional, and irrational than the behavior of the individuals alone.

Le Bon suggested that crowds are susceptible to suggestion and that individuals within the group often act based on emotions rather than logic. This can lead to what he called the "de-individuation" effect, where people become anonymous and behave in ways they would not when alone or in smaller groups. His theory emphasized that as the size of the crowd grows, the more likely it is for groupthink and mob mentality to take over, reducing overall intelligence and reasoned decision-making.

Psychologists like Sigmund Freud and later thinkers such as Elias Canetti in Crowds and Power have expanded on these ideas, further reinforcing the notion that mob behavior tends to amplify emotional responses and decrease intellectual reasoning.

The concept has since evolved into modern studies on groupthink, peer pressure, and herd mentality, all of which explore how individuals' decision-making capacities can diminish in larger groups or mobs.

I asked:

What is the most correct form of that statement?

ChatGPT said:

A more precise and correct version of the statement could be:

"As the size of a crowd increases, the capacity for individual critical thinking and rational decision-making tends to decrease, often leading to impulsive, emotional, and less intelligent collective behavior."

This version captures the essence of the idea without suggesting that the group's intelligence literally diminishes. Instead, it emphasizes the tendency for individuals within large groups to succumb to emotional influences, lose a sense of personal responsibility, and behave in ways they might not when alone. This results in actions that can appear less intelligent or more irrational on a collective level.

I said:

And if even more succinct?

ChatGPT said:

"As crowd size increases, individual critical thinking and rational decision-making often decline, leading to more impulsive and emotional group behavior."

I asked:

Has that original theory been discounted?

ChatGPT said:

The original theory posited by Gustave Le Bon and others about crowd behavior has not been entirely discounted but has evolved and been nuanced over time. While Le Bon's ideas laid a foundational understanding of mob mentality, contemporary research in social psychology and behavioral economics has offered a more complex view of group behavior.

Here are some key points regarding the evolution of the theory:

Complexity of Group Dynamics: Modern studies highlight that group dynamics can lead to both positive and negative outcomes. While large groups may exhibit impulsive behavior, they can also foster creativity, problem-solving, and collective intelligence.

Social Identity Theory: This theory suggests that individuals in a group may maintain their rationality when their social identity is strong. Group members can engage in thoughtful decision-making based on shared values and goals, contrary to Le Bon’s view of irrationality.

Groupthink: Research on groupthink illustrates how conformity pressures can lead to poor decision-making in groups, but it also acknowledges that diverse groups can enhance problem-solving and lead to better outcomes when managed effectively.

Collective Intelligence: Some studies suggest that diverse groups, when allowed to express different viewpoints, can outperform individuals on complex tasks, indicating that collective intelligence can sometimes exceed individual reasoning.

Context Matters: The context in which a crowd forms plays a crucial role in its behavior. Factors such as the purpose of the gathering, the presence of leaders, and the overall social environment can significantly influence whether a crowd behaves rationally or irrationally.

In summary, while Le Bon's foundational ideas about crowd behavior remain influential, they have been enriched by subsequent research that recognizes the complexities and potential for rational behavior in groups. The relationship between crowd size and intelligence is now viewed through a more nuanced lens that considers various social dynamics and contexts.

I asked:

How does that relate to the bizarre behaviors in discounting, ignoring, or rejecting even criminal behavior of an authoritarian and now convicted felon like Donald Trump in his MaGA political entity?

ChatGPT said:

The bizarre behaviors associated with discounting, ignoring, or rejecting the criminal actions of an authoritarian figure like Donald Trump, particularly within his MAGA political movement, can be understood through several psychological and sociological concepts related to group dynamics and crowd behavior. Here are some key points of relation:

Ingroup Bias: Supporters may exhibit ingroup bias, where they favor their group (in this case, the MAGA movement) over others. This bias can lead to rationalizations of behavior that would typically be condemned if exhibited by outsiders. Members may dismiss or downplay negative actions by their leader to maintain group cohesion and identity.

Cognitive Dissonance: When faced with evidence of wrongdoing by a figure they support, individuals may experience cognitive dissonance—an uncomfortable feeling arising from holding conflicting beliefs. To resolve this dissonance, supporters might reject the evidence, reinterpret it, or rationalize the behavior as acceptable, reinforcing their allegiance to the leader.

Groupthink: Within the MAGA movement, groupthink may manifest, where members suppress dissenting opinions and prioritize consensus over critical analysis. This can lead to collective rationalizations that ignore or downplay criminal behavior, as individuals prioritize loyalty to the group and its leader over independent judgment.

Moral Disengagement: Supporters may employ moral disengagement, a psychological process that allows individuals to separate their ethical standards from their actions or the actions of their leader. This can result in justifying or overlooking criminal behavior by framing it as a necessary means to achieve a perceived greater good.

Social Identity Theory: Many supporters may derive a significant part of their identity from their association with the MAGA movement. This strong social identity can lead to a reluctance to criticize or abandon the leader, even in the face of wrongdoing, as doing so could threaten their sense of belonging and self-worth.

Collective Rationalization: The group may collectively rationalize or reinterpret actions that might otherwise be viewed as criminal. This collective mindset can create an echo chamber where dissenting voices are minimized, and problematic behavior is either ignored or reframed as a strategy against perceived threats from outside groups.

Fear of Social Repercussions: Individuals within the movement may fear social repercussions or ostracization for criticizing Trump or the MAGA ideology. This can lead to a reluctance to engage in open dialogue about his criminal behavior, further entrenching group loyalty.

Charismatic Authority: Trump's charismatic leadership style may contribute to a phenomenon where supporters view him as an embodiment of their values, leading to a willingness to overlook or dismiss actions that contradict those values, reinforcing loyalty to his persona rather than to ethical standards.

These factors create an environment where bizarre behaviors, such as ignoring or discounting criminal actions, become more prevalent among supporters. This reflects how group dynamics and psychological processes can influence individual behavior, especially in the context of strong social identities and charismatic leadership.

I said:

This has even taken his MaGA people to vote against their own interests, their own country, against the US Constitution, and the spirit of America, to the point that some of them have said they'd rather "spend time with Putin than a Democrat."

ChatGPT said:

Yes, the phenomenon you describe—supporters voting against their own interests, the interests of their country, and even the principles enshrined in the Constitution—can be analyzed through the same psychological and sociological lenses previously mentioned. Here are some key points to consider:

Identity Over Interests: Many supporters prioritize their identity and affiliation with the MAGA movement over their individual interests or the broader interests of the country. This can manifest in a willingness to support policies or candidates that may not align with their economic or social well-being if those policies are framed as part of their group's identity.

Polarization and Us vs. Them Mentality: Political polarization has intensified, leading to a perception of Democrats not just as political opponents but as existential threats. This "us vs. them" mentality can make supporters more likely to align with leaders like Trump, even when it means voting against their interests, simply to oppose the perceived enemy.

Charismatic Leadership and Loyalty: Trump’s charismatic leadership fosters a strong emotional connection with his supporters. This can lead individuals to prioritize loyalty to him over their own rational interests or the principles of democracy. When supporters say they’d prefer spending time with authoritarian figures like Putin rather than Democrats, it underscores the depth of their allegiance to their leader and their rejection of opposing viewpoints.

Manipulation of Fear and Mistrust: Trump's rhetoric often plays on fears of socialism, immigration, and societal change, which can lead supporters to view Democrats as threats to their way of life. This fear can override rational decision-making regarding their interests or the implications for the country.

Social Reinforcement: Within their social circles, MAGA supporters may find reinforcement for their beliefs, further entrenching their views and making it harder to consider alternative perspectives. The echo chamber effect can create a distorted view of reality where opposing ideas are not only rejected but vilified.

Disregard for Democratic Norms: Some supporters may embrace authoritarian figures because they perceive a breakdown of trust in democratic institutions. Their willingness to disregard the Constitution or democratic norms reflects a broader crisis of legitimacy and trust in those institutions, as they align more with leaders who promise to disrupt the status quo, regardless of the consequences.

Nostalgia and Idealization: Supporters may idealize a past vision of America that they believe Trump embodies, leading them to overlook actions or policies that contradict democratic values. This nostalgia can be a powerful motivator for voting behavior, even when it aligns with authoritarianism.

Emotional Appeals: Trump's ability to connect emotionally with his base through rallies, social media, and rhetoric can lead to decisions driven more by emotional resonance than rational analysis. This emotional connection often transcends traditional political considerations, encouraging loyalty even when it contradicts their interests.

In summary, the behavior of voting against one's own interests and embracing authoritarian figures can be understood as a complex interplay of identity, loyalty, emotional manipulation, and social dynamics, reflecting deeper issues within contemporary American political discourse.

I asked:

How do you combat such a challenge?

ChatGPT said:

Combating the challenges posed by the dynamics of group behavior, polarization, and the willingness of individuals to support authoritarian figures over their own interests requires a multifaceted approach. Here are several strategies that can be effective:

Promote Critical Thinking: Encourage educational programs and initiatives that foster critical thinking skills. Teaching individuals to analyze information, evaluate sources, and consider multiple perspectives can help combat the acceptance of misinformation and dogma.

Encourage Open Dialogue: Create safe spaces for open dialogue where individuals can discuss differing viewpoints without fear of backlash. Facilitating respectful conversations can help break down barriers and encourage understanding between opposing groups.

Empathy and Storytelling: Share personal stories that humanize issues and illustrate the real-world consequences of political decisions. Empathy can bridge divides and create connections that transcend ideological differences.

Highlight Common Values: Focus on shared values and common ground, rather than divisive issues. Emphasizing areas of agreement can help build coalitions and reduce hostility between groups.

Combat Misinformation: Actively address misinformation and disinformation by promoting media literacy and fact-checking resources. Encouraging individuals to verify claims before accepting them can reduce the spread of false narratives.

Leverage Trusted Voices: Engage respected figures within communities to help bridge divides and foster understanding. Leaders who can speak to their peers with credibility may be more effective in challenging harmful narratives.

Community Building: Foster local community initiatives that encourage collaboration across political lines. Engaging in community service, local projects, or shared interests can help individuals see each other as neighbors rather than adversaries.

Address Economic Concerns: Many individuals support populist movements due to economic insecurity. Advocating for policies that address economic disparities and improve the well-being of all citizens can reduce the appeal of authoritarian figures.

Promote Democratic Norms: Emphasize the importance of democratic norms, institutions, and the rule of law. Educational campaigns can help people understand the consequences of undermining these principles and the value of civic engagement.

Encourage Civic Participation: Mobilize individuals to engage in democratic processes, such as voting, attending town halls, and participating in local governance. Increased civic engagement can empower individuals to advocate for their interests within a democratic framework.

Use Social Media Wisely: Utilize social media platforms to disseminate positive messages, counter misinformation, and create campaigns that promote understanding and cooperation. Engaging narratives can attract attention and foster discussion.

Be Patient and Persistent: Changing deeply held beliefs and behaviors takes time. Approaching discussions with patience and persistence, recognizing that change is often gradual, is essential for long-term impact.

By implementing these strategies, individuals and organizations can work to counter the negative effects of group dynamics, promote healthier political discourse, and foster a more informed and engaged citizenry. Ultimately, the goal is to create an environment where rational discussion and democratic values prevail over fear, division, and authoritarianism.

I asked:

Do you think we'll be OK, and how long will it take to get back to a new normal?

ChatGPT said:

The path to a new normal in the political landscape and societal dynamics is complex and varies significantly based on numerous factors, including the actions of leaders, community responses, and individual engagement. 

Here are some considerations regarding the potential for recovery and the timeline:

Historical Context: Societies have faced political upheaval, polarization, and authoritarianism throughout history. While these periods can be challenging, many societies have ultimately returned to a more stable and functional state. The process can be long, but history shows that recovery is possible.

Grassroots Movements: Increased civic engagement and grassroots movements can drive change. The resurgence of activism in various forms suggests a willingness among many individuals to advocate for democratic values and challenge authoritarian tendencies.

Educational Initiatives: Investing in education that promotes critical thinking, media literacy, and civic engagement can create a more informed electorate. Over time, this can lead to a more resilient society capable of resisting harmful ideologies.

Changing Demographics: As demographics shift, younger generations often bring different values and perspectives. Their engagement in politics and social issues can influence the direction of society, potentially fostering a more inclusive and democratic environment.

Technology and Communication: The rise of technology and social media can facilitate more rapid dissemination of information, allowing for grassroots movements to gain momentum quickly. However, it also presents challenges, such as the spread of misinformation, which must be addressed.

Leadership and Accountability: The emergence of leaders who prioritize democratic norms and values can help steer society back toward a healthier political landscape. Accountability for those who undermine these principles is also crucial for restoring trust.

Economic Factors: Addressing economic concerns and disparities will be vital for fostering social stability. Societal healing often correlates with improvements in economic well-being and opportunities for all.

Cultural Shifts: Societal values can evolve over time. As communities engage in dialogue and build connections across divides, there is potential for a cultural shift toward more tolerance, understanding, and cooperation.

Timeline for Recovery

Short-Term (1-5 years): In the near term, we may see increased activism and mobilization around democratic values, but deep-seated divisions may still exist. Local initiatives, community building, and education efforts can lead to incremental improvements.

Medium-Term (5-10 years): With sustained efforts, including civic engagement and addressing economic issues, we might see a more significant cultural shift and a gradual return to healthier political norms. New leadership could emerge, and younger generations might play a key role in shaping the future.

Long-Term (10+ years): A new normal could emerge as societal values shift, political norms are reinforced, and institutional trust is rebuilt. This process may take a generation or more, but history indicates that societies can recover from periods of turmoil.

Ultimately, while the challenges are significant, there is also a strong foundation of resilience and potential for positive change. The timeline for recovery will depend on collective efforts, civic engagement, and the prioritization of democratic principles in the years to come. The future remains uncertain, but the capacity for growth and improvement is present.

I asked: 

Briefly, how long if Donald Trump wins the presidency again in 2024, and how long if Kamala Harris wins?

ChatGPT said:

The potential timelines for societal recovery and normalization can vary significantly depending on who wins the presidency in 2024:

If Donald Trump Wins:

• Short-Term (1-2 years): Expect heightened polarization and further entrenchment of authoritarian tendencies, with potential erosion of democratic norms. Resistance from opposing groups may increase, leading to further societal division.
• Medium-Term (3-5 years): If Trump's policies continue to favor divisive rhetoric and policies, significant challenges to democratic institutions may arise, making recovery more difficult. However, grassroots movements and civic engagement could grow as a reaction.
• Long-Term (5-10+ years): Recovery could be prolonged, depending on how deeply his administration undermines democratic norms and institutions. Societal healing might take a generation or more, with potential for significant unrest and resistance.

If Kamala Harris Wins:

• Short-Term (1-2 years): A Harris presidency could lead to an initial period of stabilizing efforts, focusing on rebuilding trust in institutions and addressing social divisions. There may be backlash from Trump supporters, but institutional norms could be reinforced.
• Medium-Term (3-5 years): With a focus on inclusive policies and community engagement, society may begin to heal, leading to a gradual return to a more functional political climate. Collaborative efforts may foster dialogue across divides.
• Long-Term (5-10 years): Recovery and normalization could occur more rapidly, especially if economic and social policies address the root causes of division. Trust in institutions could be restored, allowing for a healthier political landscape.

In summary, a Trump victory may prolong the path to recovery, while a Harris victory could facilitate a more rapid return to stability, though challenges would still exist regardless of the outcome.